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7 <br /> Ms. Kelley said she will seek to reserve Council's ability t o make a decision on <br />the appeal. <br /> <br /> Mr. Caravati said he is concerned when only a part of a dispute is before us when <br />he feels the other part will be back to Council later. <br /> <br /> Ms. Richards expressed concern that if the judge should reject the City Attorney's <br />arguments then Ms. Johnson would have to demolish the wall and there would be no <br />guarantee that Council would have the opportunity to take action. <br /> <br /> Mr. Caravati said he thinks Council needs to be part of the dispute in order to get <br />it resolved. <br /> <br /> Ms. Kel ley said the major issue is whether the applicant would incur penalties. <br />She said she does not know what the parties involved will seek to have heard in court on <br />th <br />October 15 , noting that the plaintiff may seek to have penalties incurred. Ms. Kelley <br />said Council's decision needs to be based on the public good and if Councilors feel they <br />need additional information she thinks is okay to defer the appeal decision. <br /> <br /> Mr. Caravati said he agrees and that is the subject of his motion. Mr. Caravati <br />called the question. <br /> <br /> Mr. Cox said he cannot support the motion as stated and feels Council has ample <br />information. <br /> <br /> Ms. Richards said that in listening to the discussion tonight and considering what <br />Ms. Kelley has said, she feels she has adequate information. She said she thinks Council <br />needs to send a strong signal to the court that Council needs to intercede to uphold its <br />laws. She said she will vote against the motion. <br /> <br /> Mr. Schilling said he does not want to see this issue dealt with in a piecemeal <br />fashion, an d would like to see it approached in a holistic manner in order to most <br />effectively preserve the building. Mr. Schilling said that acting on part of the matter <br />could compromise a later decision. <br /> <br /> Mr. Cox said his concern is that the issue has been in cou rt for quite awhile and <br />the day light issue has not been acted on. Mr. Cox asked that the court issue be clarified. <br /> <br /> Ms. Kelley said it is clear that the judge has ordered complete removal of the <br />encroachment, including the daylight issue, but there may be room for discussion <br />between the parties. <br /> <br /> Mr. Caravati said hence his motion. <br /> <br /> Mr. Caravati's motion failed by the following vote. Ayes: Mr. Caravati, Mr. <br />Schilling. Noes: Mr. Cox, Ms. Richards. Absent: Mr. Lynch. <br /> <br /> Ms. Richards made a motion t o uphold the BAR's denial of the partial demolition <br />of the wall based on demolition guidelines, and therefore denying permission to construct <br />a replacement wall. Mr. Cox seconded the motion. <br /> <br /> Mr. Schilling said he will vote against the motion and noted t hat it will fail on a 2 <br />to 2 vote. <br /> <br /> Ms. Richards asked if the motion fails will that in effect amount to approving the <br />appeal, and Ms. Kelley said no. <br /> <br /> Mr. Caravati said he wants to vote for the motion but will not. He said he wants <br />the issues resolved and feels it is best to do it all at once. He said he feels the public will <br />be better served by doing it that way. <br /> <br />