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Mr. Caravati said he intends to stay the course and will vote on the principle as he thinks it is a wise idea. He said it will save $30,000. He said he has been a champion of the idea. He said Richmond is the only other city in Virginia to make the change and their turnout increased from 16% to 43%. He said he does not care if it costs more to advertise if it is good to the cause of benefiting citizens. He said there is fear that this is partisan related, but not on his part. He said he sees very few negatives. He said it is a sacrifice by leaders to be willing to give up six months of their term and signals to people that they want to do something about their participation. Dr. Brown noted that the Council appointed a task force that unanimously recommended moving the elections because it will save money and increase turnout, and he gives a lot of weight to their recommendation. He said it was an issue during his campaign and he heard a lot of support from citizens for moving the elections. He said having the Council elections coincide with State elections will help people better understand the issues better and the relationship between the City and State. He said he is looking forward to the recommendation of the Elections Study Task Force, but agrees that he does not see this issue as part of that. He said his personal feeling is that he, Ms. Hamilton and Mr. Lynch agreed to this change ahead of time, but he is not sure about imposing the shortened term on someone else. He said he will be open minded to whatever motion is made. Mr. Schilling made a motion to approve the ordinance, with the change occurring in November of 2007, and Dr. Brown seconded the motion. Mr. Lynch said he will not accept moving the elections to 2007 because the same argument applies to putting these conditions on a new Council. Mr. Lynch made a motion to amend the ordinance to move the elections to November of 2005, and Mr. Caravati seconded the motion. Mr. Schilling made a motion to amend the ordinance back to moving the elections to 2007, but Mr. Brown said that Council must first vote on the amendment on the table. The amendment to approve the ordinance with the date of November 2005 was approved by the following vote. Ayes: Mr. Caravati, Ms. Hamilton, Mr. Lynch. Noes: Dr. Brown and Mr. Schilling. Mr. Schilling made a motion to amend the ordinance to change the date to 2007. The motion died for lack of a second. The ordinance entitled "AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND ARTICLE II OF CHAPTER 2 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF CHARLOTTESVILLE BY ADDING THEREIN A NEW NUMBERED SECTION 2-35, THAT PROVIDES FOR CITY COUNCIL ELECTIONS TO TAKE PLACE ON THE DATE OF THE NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION BEGINNING IN 2005" was offered and carried over to the next meeting for consideration. Mr. Caravati said he would like to hold a second public hearing at the next meeting and Councilors agreed. Mr. Schilling asked that his comments be entered verbatim into the record. REQUEST: EXTENDING REPORTING DATE FOR ELECTIONS STUDY TASK FORCE Dr. Brown said that the Task Force is concerned that holding public hearings in August while citizens are typically on vacation would not provide for adequate representation, and has requested that their reporting date be extended. Mr. Caravati made a motion to extend the Council Elections Study Task Force's reporting date to October 18, and Mr. Schilling seconded the motion.