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443 <br /> <br />should adopt option C because as it is written right now it is stating, as required by state <br />law, which is dubious, that School Board members would be elected at large in city wide <br />elections, which is simply not true. He said it may or may not be required by state law, <br />but if it is it is most certainly a mistake and an oversight as was discussed with Counsel <br />that was hired. He said he would like to see us use alternative C which strikes any <br />language which may down the line may come back on us as having been confusing or, <br />worse, misleading, because we do not know where this is going to go. He said if we do <br />some do research on what has happened in the past he thinks we could see that it would <br />certainly be a different path than we are proposing, but he would hate for this Council to <br />take a position that that is what we would like to see in this community knowing the <br />history of this community and the attempts of disenfranchisement of certain populations, <br />the closing of schools, etc. He said that is not the direction he wants to be affiliated with. <br />He made a substitute motion to adopt option C which strikes any language about the type <br />of elections and says that we will just have to figure that out later. <br /> <br /> Dr. Brown said he would like to get a clarification from our lawyer because he <br />think he and Mr. Schilling had pretty different experiences sitting in with our attorney <br />and the hired attorney. <br /> <br /> Mr. Caravati noted there is a motion on the table, and Mr. Schilling temporarily <br />withdrew the motion. <br /> <br /> Dr. Brown said Council had requested opinions from the State Board of Elections <br />and from an expert on election law, and both of their opinions were that state law did not <br />give us any choices and that state law in fact pretty clearly requires us to proceed initially <br />with at large system. He said it was clearly also defined that we could have a discussion <br />and seek appropriate state approval if we wanted to something different. He asked if he <br />recalled that correctly, and asked that Mr. Brown give guidance to the law. <br /> <br /> Mr. Brown said he does not think Dr. Brown is misstating it at all. He said Mr. <br />Schilling referenced maybe an error or oversight by the General Assembly, and said that <br />may be the case. He said it is a very confusing statute that governs the transition from an <br />appointed to an elected school board. He said it is somewhat one size fits all as this one <br />statute was intended to govern all transitions to various types of school boards to elected <br />school boards. Mr. Brown said Dr. Brown is correct that we have heard from the State <br />Board of Elections and outside counsel that specializes in this type of issue. He said they <br />reached the same type of conclusion in terms of whether the statute requires at large <br />elections and whether it gives Council the authority right now to create election districts <br />or wards for the election of some or all of the School Board members. Mr. Brown said he <br />thinks Dr. Brown has stated it correctly. <br /> <br /> Mr. Schilling said he would like to respond to that because he asked Mr. Carter <br />Glass directly, is this absolute or could an argument be made in the other direction. He <br />said what Mr. Glass said was yes it could, it is unclear, and he thinks it is probably this <br />way but an argument could be made the other way and you would be welcome to try that <br />if you choose to. He said it was a specific question asked for a specific reason. He said <br />he could have said it is 100%, there is no gray area, but that is not what he said in direct <br />response to a question he asked. <br /> <br /> Mr. Brown what he and Mr. Glass were trying to give Council guidance on what <br />is the most legally defensive position to take and that is what was conveyed by Mr. Glass <br />and by the State Board of Elections. He said he would like to respond to one other point. <br />He said whether at large elections will be approved or disapproved by the Department of <br />Justice, he is not going to predict. He said it requires a very sophisticated analysis of <br />prior voting results and prior elections results in this City, and it involves the question of <br />whether there has been a pattern of racial block or racial polarization voting in the City. <br />He said he thinks we should be cautious about assuming or overstating that at large <br />elections will be naturally disapproved by the Department of Justice. He said he thinks <br />they have routinely disapproved of at large elections where there is evidence of racial <br />block voting. Whether that is the case here, he said he thinks we need to see what the <br />analysis shows. <br /> <br /> <br />
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