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2 <br /> <br /> Mr. Schilling asked if we open ourselves up to liability if we treat the Hydraulic <br />Road site plans differently from the others, and Mr. Brown said no, though it would have <br />to apply to all applications that made the September 15th deadline if Council agreed those <br />would be excluded from the ordinance. <br /> <br /> Mr. Lynch said if we agree that all the projects have to be evaluated under the <br />new ordinance, there would be the opportunity for administrative waivers and the <br />possibility of appeals. He asked Mr. Tolbert to speak to that. He asked how long it <br />would take to get through this process. He also asked how the ordinance would affect the <br />Mt. Zion Church project. <br /> <br /> He said it would take quite awhile to get through the process. He said we would <br />not know how individual projects are affected until the project engineers provide that <br />information. At a minimum, he said the project engineers would have to say the project <br />is in compliance. <br /> <br /> Responding to a question from Mr. Caravati, Mr. Tolbert said that some of the <br />projects have been in the works for quite awhile. <br /> <br /> Mr. Caravati asked if the requirements of the Corps of Engineers are stronger or <br />weaker than our ordinance, and Mr. Tolbert said theirs are more onerous than ours if they <br />apply. <br /> <br /> Responding to a question from Mr. Lynch, Mr. Tolbert said that the Union Bank <br />project would have to be completely re-engineered in order to comply with the new <br />ordinance, and he does not know if they could meet the criteria. <br /> <br /> Mr. Lynch said he would like to see a more detailed analysis of the environmental <br />and financial impacts of these projects, but Mr. Tolbert said the City's engineering staff <br />cannot re-evaluate these plans, the private developers would need to do it. He said there <br />would be a financial impact on every one of the projects. <br /> Dr. Brown said that the stream ordinance is important and is a chance to address <br />environmental health issues, and he has been frustrated that it has taken so long to <br />develop the ordinance. He said he supported having the ordinance be effective <br />immediately, but after the vote he was not sure it was fair to the projects in process that <br />had applied. He said fairness works both ways. He said he would draw the line at those <br />projects officially accepted, and would support amending the date to allow site plans <br />officially accepted for review as of the vote on September 20th. <br /> <br /> Mr. Schilling said he asked the City Attorney if Council could review the <br />ordinance anew. He noted that he wanted to vote for the ordinance at the last meeting, <br />but his motion to change the effective date failed. He said he would have voted for the <br />ordinance had the effective date been different. <br /> <br /> Mr. Caravati asked what "officially submitted means," and Mr. Brown said those <br />projects submitted on the date of the submission deadline. <br /> <br /> Mr. Caravati made a motion that all site plan applications submitted to the City <br />Department of Neighborhood Development Services on or before September 20, 2004 be <br />reviewed in accordance with the land use requirements in effect as of that date, and not <br />be subject to any new requirements contained in the City Water Protection Ordinance <br />adopted on Monday, September 20, 2004, and Mr. Schilling seconded the motion. <br /> <br /> Mr. Brown said that the effect of this motion would be that all the site plans on <br />the list provided by Mr. Tolbert and the Hydraulic Road site plans would not have to <br />comply with the new ordinance. <br /> <br /> Ms. Hamilton said she is not interested in derailing development plans, but is also <br />very supportive of the aims of the ordinance. She said she has a sense of urgency <br />because it has taken some time to get the ordinance together. She said she does not think <br />she can support allowing site plans submitted by either the 15th or the 20th to not comply <br />with the new ordinance. She said the ordinance allows mitigation plans and waivers. <br /> <br /> <br />