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60 <br /> <br /> Responding to a question from Mr. Toscano, Mr. Gary O'Connell, Deputy City <br />Manager, stated that discussions are taking place between the City and County Parks and <br />Recreation Department and the Teen Center on possible interim locations for skateboarding <br />as well as a more permanent site. Mr. O'Connell noted that a portion of the Mclntire Road <br />tennis courts is available for rollerskating/blading. <br /> <br /> Ms. Daugherty asked who had brought the issue of banning skateboarding up and Mr. <br />O'Connell replied that the police had made the request. <br /> <br /> Mr. Toscano stated that he has witnessed close calls with skateboarders coming too <br />close to pedestrians and situations where older persons have been frightened by the <br />skateboarders. <br /> Ms. Slaughter stated that she was glad alternative sites were being explored and <br />stressed the importance of talking to Albemarle County as well as the City. Ms. Slaughter <br />noted that the downtown mall is primarily a business area and Council is trying to balance the <br />needs of the youth with those of downtown merchants and customers. <br /> <br /> Mr. Toscano questioned whether skateboarding and rollerskating/blading on the mall <br />should not be treated as two separate issues. <br /> <br /> Mr. Vandever stated that the thought skateboarding and rollerskating should be treated <br />separately and, referring to Ms. Rich's comments, noted that in allowing vehicular crossing of <br />the mall, a separate zone would be distinguished to alert pedestrians to the traffic, whereas <br />the skateboarders use the same areas as pedestrians. <br /> <br /> Mr. Toscano stated that Council could defer action on the proposed ban and monitor <br />the situation and make a decision in the future depending upon how skateboarders and roller <br /> <br />skaters act. <br /> <br />Mr. Vandever stated that he preferred to defer the matter. <br /> <br /> Ms. Daugherty agreed to defer the matter and see if skateboarders can be more <br />considerate, careful and thoughtful in the future. <br /> <br /> Ms. Slaughter requested that the decision to defer be explained to the police officer <br />who had requested the ban. <br /> <br /> The second reading of the ordinance banning skateboarding and rollerskatinggolading <br />on the downtown mall was deferred, with the understanding that the situation will be <br />monitored and a report will be sent to Council on the matter in December. <br /> <br />PUBLIC HEARING/ORDINANCES: 1) REQUIRING DOGS TO BE LEASHED IN <br />PARKS, CEMETERIES, GOLF COURSES, SCHOOL GROUNDS, AND DOWNTOWN <br />MALL; 2) "POOPER SCOOPER" ORDINANCE (2nd reading) <br /> <br />The public hearing was opened. <br /> <br /> Mr. Richard Scott, 3 05 2nd Street, N.W., opposed both ordinances for the following <br />reasons: 1) they represent intolerable acts of discrimination as only dogs are singled out; <br />2) they are overkill in the extent of coverage; and 3) every single inch of public property is <br />included in the ordinances, lvlr. Scott stated that he thought it would be useful in trying to <br />evaluate the ordinances to: 1) include a description of the problem; 2) furnish evidence to <br />support the problem; and 3) provide an explanation of how the problem will be remedied by <br />the ordinances. Mr. Scott stated that he did not think the ordinances needed to apply to all <br />areas, they are overly heavy-handed without supporting evidence, and are an intrusion on <br />personal liberties. Mr. Scott pointed out that there are many public areas not frequented by <br />people where the "pooper scooper" ordinance need not apply. <br /> Ms. Barbara Haskins, Foxbrook Lane, stated that she did not feel Council has any data <br />to support the proposed leash law and recommending that a task force be appointed to gather <br />data. Ms. Haskins noted that there is a drastic difference in park usage between the summer <br /> <br /> <br />