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10 Police cannot do anything about that situation. She said there may be many others who are inconvenienced on a regular basis, but are discouraged because they have no protection under the law. She said we should protect our citizens from noise intrusions late at night, particularly as we are moving to mixed use corridors. Mr. Schilling concurred with Ms. Hamilton, and said that in light of our zoning changes, we need to see how they will affect our residents. Mr. Schilling asked how noise levels in the new amphitheater will be dealt with. He asked how those complaints are handled under the current law. Ms. Kelley said that the amphitheater is not covered under the current ordinance. She said this can be looked at if Council is interested in revising the noise ordinance. She said we need to determine how often it is occurring and at what times of day if we want to establish new standards. She said we may need to bring in someone who is an expert in the area. Mr. Schilling said we need to be prepared to deal with calls regarding noise from the amphitheater. He said we have a dark skies provision and sound can be as much as or more invasive. He said we need better tools to address deafening car stereos and need to put more teeth into the ordinance. He said he also supports clarifying the modification of mufflers. Mr. Caravati suggested a 50 foot audible all day long for car stereos and said we should make sure we are at the statutory limit for penalties. He agreed about clarifying the muffler issue. He said in commercial districts we need some type of tool for police, and said we may be able to apply a time restriction of 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. He said he does not have fear about noise from the new amphitheater mostly because of the time of events but also because it will have a state of the art sound system. He said he is more concerned about noise coming from the University of Virginia football stadium. Dr. Brown agreed with Ms. Hamilton that people do not call to complain about noise from commercial district because they know the police cannot do anything. Dr. Brown asked about the disposition of these calls. Dr. Brown also asked about the penalties and if the police know about repeat offenders. Ms. Kelley said that by the third call to a location a summons is issued. She said the police keep track of the disposition of each report. Dr. Brown said we are hamstrung by needing data not supposition. He suggested holding a public hearing to get more input from residents and businesses in order to get a better understanding of the problem. Ms. Kelley said that if Council decides to pursue expanding the noise ordinance to other commercial areas, information needs to be collected on what decibel levels will be restricted. She said what is appropriate on the downtown mall may not be appropriate elsewhere. Dr. Brown asked about the difficulty of using decibel levels, and Ms. Kelley said it is difficult to measure moving targets. She said another issue that is not all police carry noise meters with them because there are a limited number of them. Mr. Lynch said he is not in favor of getting a professional consultant. He said he thinks a cross between the mall and residential areas could be used. Ms. Kelley said that basic information is still needed regarding the appropriate decibel level and the distance. Dr. Brown asked staff to schedule a time for Council to meet to determine baseline data. Dr. Brown said he would also support decreasing the distance for car stereos. He suggested holding a public hearing when Council has proposals to consider.