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116 Mr. Lynch said Mr. Caravati’s point is good. He said his concern is that the east end of the mall has taken hits because of the construction which we are in the process of fixing. He said he would not be surprised if we see increased sales as a result of this alone He said he thinks it is fiction that we can contribute increased sales to the street crossing, and should admit that businesses complaining is the reason we are doing it. He said he does not think it is an appropriate thing to be doing now. He said he thinks the number one thing would be improving side streets which he thinks will make a much th bigger difference. He said there is no way to make a crossing at 4 Street an independent variable. Ms. Hamilton said it is not fair to say if merchants stop complaining it will be considered a success. She said the crossing will not be the end of pedestrian activity. She said the purpose of the study may need to be thought out in a different way. She said she is willing to rethink its purpose and the components of a study. Dr. Brown said that to some degree the study can be pretty simple. He said the origin and destination study interests him the most as that will show if people are using the crossing to park or shop or using it to get somewhere else. He said the issue is whether the crossing is contributing to the economic health of the mall or not. He said nd that he subjectively thinks that the 2 Street crossing was successful. He said that when the crossing at the east end of the mall closed businesses were affected. He said he understands the concern to have open pedestrian space. He said the economic health of the mall is dependent on a much larger community, and we need to make it easier for them. Mr. Lynch said he thinks that is a good point. He said we need to ask where people are going and see if the parking garages are full. He said opinions will be subjective. He said he does not see the point of measuring sales figures. Mr. Schilling said he agrees with Dr. Brown’s comments. He said he thinks it would be good to see the study period longer as proposed by Mr. Caravati. Mr. Caravati said that perhaps we should have the data collection designed before the opening, but Mr. Tolbert said he thinks they have a good handle on traffic counts, origin and destination, and parking garage data. He said the business data is the loosest piece. Mr. Lynch said we already have downtown sales tax information. He said he does not think we need to compile anything we are not already getting. th Mr. Caravati made a motion to approve the temporary 4 Street crossing as recommended, and Ms. Hamilton seconded the motion. Mr. Caravati said he personally would not support the crossing if he were not a Councilor. He said he thinks it is a wise and prudent move and a risk well worth taking. He said that if future Councils find it unwise it can be easily rolled back. Mr. Lynch said he does not think it will necessarily hurt the mall, but he does not think this is the best solution. st Mr. Caravati amended his motion to move the reporting date to January 31 after the Christmas season, and Ms. Hamilton agreed to this amendment. Mr. Schilling said he would rather see the date be a year from the opening date of the crossing. Mr. Schilling made a substitute motion that due to the seasonal nature of the businesses, that the temporary crossing be a year from the opening, and Ms. Hamilton seconded the motion.