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4 Dr. Brown said one proposal had been to use the land on the east side of McIntire Park, but he said he had no interest in giving that up. He said the piece on the west side is mostly used for softball and a smaller percentage of City residents use it. He said there is some inequity if the City is giving up land and being asked to contribute money. He said we should have the County take on more softball. He said the area around that piece of the park could be changed to be more compatible with the YMCA. Mr. Kruger said that Albemarle County has set aside $1 million for a competitive pool within the YMCA facility. Dr. Brown asked if membership will be required to use the YMCA pools, and whether schools will have access to the pools. Mr. Bill Blewitt, Executive Director of the YMCA, said that there is generally a variety of programming for YMCA pools, and they frequently partner with schools. Mr. Norris said that transportation is an issue for students, and asked how students would get home from the YMCA if they used the facility after school. Mr. Kruger said the YMCA has identified challenges with the proposed site, and transportation was one. He said maybe a City bus route could be expanded or a YMCA bus could be used. He said the YMCA is committed to using a sliding scale for membership. He said they would also like to have City and County representatives on their Board. Ms. Hamilton said she is hearing from people with children that they tend to favor the YMCA in this location. She said others have concerns about taking park land, the YMCA’s performance, privatization of parks and recreation services, cutting back on other recreation services, and undercutting private recreation businesses. She said this would be a way for the City to get out of one of its pools and a way to address that without doing it ourselves. She said this could work if the City makes guarantees to citizens and the YMCA makes guarantees to the City. She said she has heard concern about the erasure of African American programs. She said savings from elimination of Crow could be used for African American programs. She said the conditions of a lease need to be nailed down, such as every Charlottesville High School student can go to the YMCA for $5, that it be an environmentally friendly building, and that there be City and County representatives on the YMCA Board. She said we need to talk specifics. She said there would be a cost to the City running a bus line to the facility. She said she would want it to be a tight design, and take four acres, not eight. She said she thinks there will be ongoing costs to the City. Mr. Svetz said there is a transportation issue for employment at parks as well. He said savings from Crow could be used for transportation. Ms. Hamilton said she wants any savings to go to targeted, citizen focused initiatives. Mr. Taliaferro said he can agree on the concept of partnering with the YMCA, but said he needs to see details. He asked where does it leave the YMCA if we do not come to an agreement. Mr. Norris asked if there any major red flags have been raised by Ms. Hamilton’s conditions, and Mr. Kruger said no, those are all things the YMCA wants to do. Dr. Brown said he is gradually warming up to the idea of partnering with the YMCA. He said he has spent time looking at YMCAs on the web and has found that they vary a lot. He said he feels the YMCA can address teen needs. He said he would like to see a proportional number of City representatives on the YMCA Board, would like to see the facility next to CHS, and have CHS students be given priority in terms of time. He said he would also like to have CHS students be able to use the indoor track for practice. He said we need to make sure the YMCA programming reaches our population.